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  • did you try just signing in?

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    • Yes - I just get a blank screen with 'unauthorised' in the middle.

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      • oh ok ... i got no idea then ... just like this puzzle

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        • Kuang, I took bifid as the one we have to use because Cryptos confirmation about unm.a came after a post where I was assuming the use of bifid. Anymay, it can only be bifid, trifid or four-square. I would discard four-square, because it needs two keywords, but trifid may deserve a try. Guess it will probably have more variations, but we'll see.
          About the bifid's variations, I think we have only seen them in the CipherClerk applet, right? Wiki does not describe any, neither does the french applet. Have you found a page that describes the multiple variants?

          Jase: junkbox permanently checked, definitely my confirmation e-mail is along with our private investigator, waiting for me to take the cab

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          • lol cunn ... and at the variations, i assumed that because there are no J's in the cipher and wiki doesnt use them in the example, then that is what we use, i/j

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            • Originally posted by Jase
              lol cunn ... and at the variations, i assumed that because there are no J's in the cipher and wiki doesnt use them in the example, then that is what we use, i/j
              Yes, but there are more double letters used in bifid: v/w (there are no w's in the ciphertext, either), k/q, u/v... and the pairs of coordinates can be rearranged upwards, downwards, horizontally (?), and ciphertext arranged in blocks or not... enough to make me go nuts. Have a look at this applet: http://members.aon.at/cipherclerk/CipherClerk.html

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              • Originally posted by Cunn
                About the bifid's variations, I think we have only seen them in the CipherClerk applet, right? Wiki does not describe any, neither does the french applet. Have you found a page that describes the multiple variants?
                Only vague references along with some new versions that people have come up with for themselves, but Cryptos posted earlier that there are different variants and only one will give a result that makes sense.

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                • so i see

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                  • Argh, perhaps I'm being rather stupid, but I'm having trouble with the "Think Outside the Clock" level. I feel like I should get this... Any hints?
                    Rock On

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                    • which level is that jello ... my brain is fryed

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                      • Originally posted by Jello
                        Argh, perhaps I'm being rather stupid, but I'm having trouble with the "Think Outside the Clock" level. I feel like I should get this... Any hints?
                        That was a difficult one for me too, gladly will help you. what do you know so far?

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                        • There's a circle with 40 spokes on a door, and the letters SCHREIBMAX written beneath it. Gotta find a 3-digit code.
                          Rock On

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                          • Originally posted by Jase
                            which level is that jello ... my brain is fryed
                            This is the link, Jase: http://www.freewebs.com/cryptos/ghetto.htm

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                            • I understand that it's got something to do with a clock (hence the title); the lock has digits 0-60...
                              Rock On

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                              • Originally posted by Jello
                                There's a circle with 40 spokes on a door, and the letters SCHREIBMAX written beneath it. Gotta find a 3-digit code.
                                Not a 3-digit code, but a 3-number code, numbers going from 0 to 60

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